Covers, Boat Seat 39 I'm painting my trailer right now as I wait for the 5200 to dry on the seams of the boat. Transom 60,100 Tackle Boxes, Fishing Bait & Boat Gel Coat - Spectrum Color, Pumps and It’s a paint and primer in 1 so what’s the point? Rust-Oleum NeverWet Liquid Repellent Spray is designed to repel water, mud, ice and other liquids. If it's not Hammertone, I don't use Primer/Paint combo.. Worth mentioning that my recent experience with this on my melody wasn’t with Rust-Oleum 2x. Fishing Lures, Fishing Rod Holders & 6y August_07__2016_at_0247PM (resized).jpeg High Back Reclining Helm Seat, Cabin and Ha that's exactly how I ended up with this paint, I reached out to him by email and he gave me the brand and color scheme he used. The same procedure worked for me with Good call. As long as the substrate is dry when the primer is applied, rain (but not a gully washer) won't affect it too much 30 minutes after it's applied. After all, even if it feels dry to the touch, that doesn’t mean that moisture isn’t still captured within. What is happening??? All, Anchor & I just did Nitro in 3-4 days.....from start to finish. Bonus Download: New to painting? DRY AND RECOAT TIMES 0°F (21°C) 50% relative humidity. 5y Hardware, Boat Seat Tips on using Rustoleum spray paint - recoat times - YouTube 1. You shouldn't stain any type of wet wood. No issues on the side, just the front. but not totally, BTW: I now put on multiple coats within an hour of each other. Was the above recent picture painted with light coatsa a few minutes apart or a heavy coat with no waiting in between? Posted: Dec 16, 2020 / 05:00 AM PST / Updated: Dec 16, 2020 / 05:00 AM PST. 12 AN It takes about five days of normal weather for paint to dry all the way through and for the paint film to reach its maximum hardness and durability. 156K 8y Battery Charger, Marine Audio & I had an e-Mail exchange with Jeff from Pinball Pimp, and he mentioned using the Rustoleum 2x Prime+Paint in Gloss for the Museum Quality restoration of his Mata Hari. If you put spray paint on thick it could take MONTHS to cure. 841 Rust-Oleum NeverWet Rain Repellent Spray doesn't allow mud, rain and other liquid to stick to the car windshield and improves the driving visibility during rain. Rain will slow down the drying time and might affect the look, but shouldn't hurt its bond with the substrate. Having the home's siding clean, dry and dull before painting is a key to success, which makes questions of when to do an exterior paint job after power washing and rain important. Cushions, Lexington This thing is bone dry to the touch after a week but do to being in a garage with varying temps and humidity it’s a crap shoot as to how to gauge that it is cured. The primer … Forums, Find Ventilation, Interior & Cabin So I did, heres what I used and heres the result. Grills, Boat Drink Did all sides the same, Im OCD as hell so its not like something could've happened to it and me not notice. Details for December 16, 2020. by: Joseph Dames. I was meaning something in the wood itself. - Take it down to the wood as you did, prime it and then paint with the Marigold Gloss. Seven days ago today. Yup. I asked about that is considered coats and what exactly is the time to wait between applying and they said to spray an EXTREMELY light layer back and forth to cover the area WAIT ABOUT 3-5 mins then go up and down with about the same consistency. In my case I used high-fill autobody primer and the 2X heirloom white as the base and 2X red. Combos, Fishing Tools & Laid the flat white primer down last Friday. On the can it says to Wait Until Dry before re-coating, usually 24 Hours @ 70 Degrees and 50% Humidity. The easiest way to distress Chalked paint is with a fine(220-240 grit) to medium(150-180 grit) sand paper or sponge. A masonry or wood surface will absorb more moisture from a soaking rain than will aluminum or vinyl siding. SO I called Rustoleum and here's what tech support said: Wait 24 hours for the primer to dry before putting on a coat of paint. It sits in my garage next to a window and the sunlight comes in the window directly on the back. Yeah, did the whole cab in white then sanded with 400 grit. 6y 4. Great to see you're enjoying Pinside! Ski, Wakeboard Wait 24 hours for the coat of paint to dry before applying another coat. Screws, Boat Handles, Pulls, Hardware, Boat Covers, Boat Shrink Wrap Would it be bad to apply a different clear coat on top of the enamel? Systems, Marine Plumbing Seats, Fishing Boat Accessories, Marine DC Power Plugs A masonry or wood surface will absorb more moisture from a soaking rain than will aluminum or vinyl siding. paint on Primer.. Factors Which Decide The Drying Time Of Spray Paint. 54,650 Many different paint brands sell plastic primer, but I chose Rust-Oleum because I’ve used it many times before with fantastic results. Pumps, Livewell Aerator Pumps Small window of dry time before heavy rain arrives Weather. Covers, Boat Wiring & & Hitches, & Deals, Electronics Insurance, Boat I’ve had this happen a few times and I just went through it recently on a melody repaint. Drying time is the recommended duration needed between coats. Kits, Seadog Stainless Steel Cup 11,073 Avoid spraying Rustoleum in direct sunlight, which will fade the color as it dries. Oil-based paints, on the other hand, require up to six to eight hours to become dry to the touch and 24 hours before the next coat can be applied. Maintenance, Fiberglass & Epoxy It may feel dry on the surface, but it or the actual wood of the dresser was damp, was holding humidity when you applied the first coat. Varnish, Marine Adhesives, Basically what I’m concluding to which they didn’t specifically say is, this stuff wasn’t designed to paint colors over colors, it’s more of a “paint the whole chair red” and move on. I spray the base & allow 24 hours to set & then do my 1st color, then another 24 hour, the 3rd color goes onto of that. Mrm_4, I am like you, restoring a Mata Hari and about to embark with the Rustoleum spray cans that I just bought this morning. Charts & a good rule of thumb when painting outside; 1 Paint the West side . 75 Hardware, Boat Cabin Ok called Rustoleum BASICALLY what I’m being told is the problem is considering cure time versus dry time. This happened to me while putting on a 2nd coat when the first coat was dry to the touch, Wells, Toilet & Waste On my Xenon, I had a similar issue where the back of the cabinet had sucked so much water and moisture from sitting on the ground/concrete, that it was warped and chipping. It has me terrified to try and finish the stencil on my back box and do the rest of the cabinet. Then place the machine against the wall. Major recurring problem with Rustoleum 2x. Shop ....Ive had it tinted Yellow with good results on a Tommy. Telescopes, Covers and And then I’m gonna take the cabinet inside and keep it next to my dehumidifier for 2 weeks before I stencil. Hardware, Boat Seats by Yes, try to isolate with Kilz (only the back), let it dry and paint one coat of yellow. I have personally used original kilz primer, roll on and rattle can with success. Kits, Boat Trailer 8,107. sounds like some kind of contamination since it's just one surface that keeps fighting? Thanks for sharing guys! Ok so after 23 days my conclusion is FUCK RUSTOLEUM!!! A hard rain will affect the primer if it's not good and dry. It's gotta be your primer causing the issue. Boat, Sell A If you waited over 48 hours, then the reason could be that the paint was applied too heavy and needs a long time to dry and cure, before another coat of paint can be sprayed on. Allow more time at cooler temperatures. As far as others using the same products -- not sure what they'd be doing different? Water Based/Latex Paint ~ Dry Time 1-2 hours – Cure Time 21-30 days. As for contamination, not sure what or how something would've done that. Then paint over with the Marigold can, without any primer. Fenders, Boat Trailer Oil-based paints, on the other hand, require up to six to eight hours to become dry to the touch and 24 hours before the next coat can be applied. Terminal Hopefully your project goes smoother than mine. but not totally dry which made the solvents from the 2nd coat eat the first coat's solvents. 3y Plumbing, Anchor How to make spray paint dry faster so you can enjoy your spray painted projects right away! I always use both Rust-Oleum Primer and Paint.. Rafts, Paddle Sealant, & 99,550 Guide, Boat You can put that paint plus primer stuff onto bare wood and if it gets too thick or the humidity is too high it will always lift. Did it dent? Sockets, Marine Electrical 308 Then more rain Wed 70% chance. Sand out the wrinkles, put the cab in the sun to bake it (or put it under hot 300w lightbulb for a day to cure), prime with Original Kilz to seal off the old stuff, put ONE coat of yellow down, call it done. Browsing Pinside at night? But as soon as it touched it, BOOM. 2nd stencil Black, At this rate I’ll show you guys how it turns out sometime in August, I waited a month to do the red on the back box because I was afraid of it pulling up during the stencil. If my phone hadn’t been damaged I’d post a pic that looks exactly like yours. 2,736 the back of the cab "looks" fine but considering one piece of this machine had a problem, I need to consider it for the rest if I want to be logical. Spraying Rustoleum should be done in a well-ventilated place where you won't mind a little overspray. When painting outside, make sure the surface your about to paint has not been "cooking" under direct sunlight since this will cause any paint to "flash dry" in wich it disturbs the proper drying of the coating wich also affects adhesion & longevity. paper, prior to a 2nd coat application. 8y 9. She decided she didnt like the color and wanted it just spray painted black. This crystal clear formula repels liquids from varieties of surface including glass and non-porous painted surface. I see others on pinside use the same products within 2 days and get restorations done in a week or 2 I’m waiting 1 to 2 weeks after painting 1 color and still have problems. All rights reserved. To me it has happened if the paint is laid on heavy and/or not given a long time to dry. Jacks, Boat Trailer Brakes & It’s for Mata Hari 77579103-A3A6-4276-9951-A6A372BC2812 (resized).jpeg, EAB556AA-70DD-4B8A-9092-2B419B4F0057 (resized).jpeg, 3E666AD7-C775-4419-A913-D4A8B1DF5667 (resized).jpeg, 8y Painting a house, whether interior or exterior, is a project that always seems to follow its own schedule. I wonder if the back of the cabinet has been sitting stored vertically, on a concrete floor. Too much moisture in the substrate will … Deals, Boat Seats 7. Someone has mentioned that it took 2 - 4 weeks before fingernails couldn't dig into it. Just remember that anything rattle-can has mega solvents. Plumbing, Fresh Water Boat This happened to me when I did the backbox and had to sand it down and repaint it 3 times in places. Are you using the "Flat White" in your picture as a primer or as a color coat? I picked it because so many of you have posted projects that have turned out so nice using the 2X. I'd let that sit for 24 hours & do 2nd color. Help! Shaking can for 4 minutes with my phone set as a timer also. I’m glad I started in the back. I’m just not having good luck at all with it and have never done this before it’s an expensive and agitating learning experience. Something on the base/primer surface is not getting along well with something in the paint. Boarding, Paddles & 1 After I stripped it down and re-primed it was fine. 71,050 Holders, Cabin Accessories & Sand it, and put a skim coat of filler on the wood to give you a new base to work from. one can for the front and one of the sides and then one can for the other side and then I popped a new one for the back. Outside of Akron. Biminis, RV & Trailer Download this image for free in High-Definition resolution the choice "download button" below. Did you sand the white before spraying the yellow? Like instantly. If you back had been in full sun, even in OH, perhaps that caused the issues? Completely dry in 2 days. Dock, Cabin and Wait 72 hours for the last coat of paint to dry before applying clear coat. That was krylon so just be aware it’s happened to me with other brands too. Thank you for sharing the frustration. Which means if I want to paint in my garage in Ohio I have about a 3 week window out of the whole year to do it. 12. Did you know Pinside is able to run thanks to donations from our visitors? 1. So soon as the paint hit it, it started to pull. Also if you wait more than an hour to do a coat you’ll get the peel. Deals, Paint & Maintenance Accessories, Boat Lift Canopy Have you tried changing the can you are using? Think it is called 'Crow Feet'. Sand, prime, and paint. Base Marigold Yellow Apparently, he has no problem with this brand of spray cans. the solvents, but that was paint on paint, not paint on primer, but the results looked just & Strip it down to bare wood again, skip the primer, do your base Yellow, go light for 1st 2 coats both to avoid runs & to let it "soak" into wood. But even so, do I really have to wait 24 hours? Krylon). I'm painting my trailer right now as I wait for the 5200 to dry on the seams of the boat. 136K Galley, Covers and (View topic image gallery). Then place the machine against the wall. Breakers, Power Packs & Jump Trolling Motors, Shop The paint can get wet after 24 hours. If you had to wait to paint until the skies are crystal-clear and blue, the painting would never get done. Maintenance, Pumps and Covers, Other So, as others have said, probably something in the base wood. Yves, That's actually pretty plausible now that I think about it. 86,300 I no longer let the coats exceed 30 minutes. Meters, Marine Electrical Panels I shook the can for what seemed like forever. Detectors, Binoculars & Primers may be top coated immediately. Parts, Wash Down Maintenance, Boat Cleaners & Only time I have had anything near that happen, it was on wobdrails for the PF, it was too thick of a 2nd coat, IMO it's the thinners in the second color attacking the base coat. I wonder if the back of the cabinet has been sitting stored vertically, on a concrete floor. Those solvents often violently react with many old paints that are lacquer based. That is a long time! Software, Digital This stuff was specifically designed to be used in 70 degrees with 50% humidity. Frequently asked questions and answers for Rust-Oleum's products . -- looks like we are thinking the same thoughts! Rollers, Boat Trailer I topped it with Liquitex spray paint, which offers a big selection of pretty hues. Smell the sanded spot, does it still smell like solvents? Terminals, Marine Fuse Blocks & 5. Driveway sealer needs to be allowed 4–8 hours to dry before rain. At that point I’ll probably throw this whole machine into a wood chipper out of frustration and anger. Ok called Rustoleum BASICALLY what I’m being told is the problem is considering cure time versus dry time. Painted around 5:30, 8y Allow to dry 24 hours before light foot traffic and 48 hour before replacing furniture or heavy foot traffic. JavaScript is disabled. 163K Savers, Boat Trailer Guides & Maybe I got part of a bad batch, but I am in no rush to give it a second chance. 4y Oil based primer takes longer to dry, but can withstand rain fairly soon. One thing for anyone doing this for the first time having similar issues. I appreciate everyone chiming in. Starting early in the day will give you plenty of time to finish the job without rushing. I painted my custom game with the 2X on the suggestions of others and had some issues on the front similar to yours. This thing is bone dry to the touch after a week but do to being in a garage with varying temps and humidity it’s a crap shoot as to how to gauge that it is cured. Take some fine sandpaper and sand a little spot. There is something in the curing process that causes it to react adversely. I imagine they are marketing these paints for someone that wants to spray their rusty lawn chair and not high end pinball cabinet art. Same crappy problem. 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